Millennial Moms Unfiltered

Tiny Living, Wealth Perception, and Family Futures

February 07, 2024 Ashley Pena & Brittni Pilkington Episode 8
Tiny Living, Wealth Perception, and Family Futures
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Millennial Moms Unfiltered
Tiny Living, Wealth Perception, and Family Futures
Feb 07, 2024 Episode 8
Ashley Pena & Brittni Pilkington

Have you ever gazed at a tiny house and wondered if you could trade in your square footage for simplicity?

 We're pulling back the curtains on alternative living arrangements, where we weigh the charm of minimalism against the challenges of raising a family in close quarters. As we reminisce about childhood homes and our journeys to stability, we invite you into a heartfelt discussion on the dreams versus realities of eco-friendly homesteads and the unique vision of a family compound where individual space and collective sustainability coexist harmoniously.

It's no news that wealth begets scrutiny, but when a postpartum pageant contestant showcases her affluent lifestyle, the court of public opinion is quick to convene. 

We navigate through the storm, examining the double standards in perceptions of wealth and luxury possessions. Debating the backlash this woman faced for embracing her family's affluence to support local agriculture, we question the societal tendency to judge certain displays of wealth while giving others a free pass. 

Buckle up as we shift gears to the emotional rollercoaster of the nomadic appeal of RV living, and the intricacies of homeschooling. The episode takes you through the delicate balance of adventure and familiarity, illustrating how trusting our instincts can guide us in uncertain times. 

We wrap up by contemplating whether the world is on the brink of collapse or simply undergoing a paradigm shift, encouraging listeners to embrace change and seek out new horizons for their families. 

Join the conversation and share your thoughts on creating a life that harmonizes with your deepest values and desires.

As always, we encourage you to catch up with us on our socials (all in the link) and it would mean SO MUCH if you would leave a review❤️



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Have you ever gazed at a tiny house and wondered if you could trade in your square footage for simplicity?

 We're pulling back the curtains on alternative living arrangements, where we weigh the charm of minimalism against the challenges of raising a family in close quarters. As we reminisce about childhood homes and our journeys to stability, we invite you into a heartfelt discussion on the dreams versus realities of eco-friendly homesteads and the unique vision of a family compound where individual space and collective sustainability coexist harmoniously.

It's no news that wealth begets scrutiny, but when a postpartum pageant contestant showcases her affluent lifestyle, the court of public opinion is quick to convene. 

We navigate through the storm, examining the double standards in perceptions of wealth and luxury possessions. Debating the backlash this woman faced for embracing her family's affluence to support local agriculture, we question the societal tendency to judge certain displays of wealth while giving others a free pass. 

Buckle up as we shift gears to the emotional rollercoaster of the nomadic appeal of RV living, and the intricacies of homeschooling. The episode takes you through the delicate balance of adventure and familiarity, illustrating how trusting our instincts can guide us in uncertain times. 

We wrap up by contemplating whether the world is on the brink of collapse or simply undergoing a paradigm shift, encouraging listeners to embrace change and seek out new horizons for their families. 

Join the conversation and share your thoughts on creating a life that harmonizes with your deepest values and desires.

As always, we encourage you to catch up with us on our socials (all in the link) and it would mean SO MUCH if you would leave a review❤️



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Speaker 1:

Okay, welcome back. No, welcome back.

Speaker 2:

Hello and welcome to another episode of Millennial Moms Unfiltered. Today, we're gonna be talking about alternative living. What does that mean? That means anything. That's not the norm, and we've had several ideas about alternative living. So, without further ado, let's get into it. All right, so I actually this was never on my list of episodes to do, but it came up on a web search of mine what topics should I do? Because I wasn't vibing with any of the topics I had written down and I was like I have a lot of these. So what about you? I feel like you've had ideas about alternative living. So like and this can be basic, like from in the house, you're already in to like completely selling everything you have and starting over again, and I have all kinds of different levels of alternative living. So it depends on my mood.

Speaker 1:

I mean Pat, I've talked about like tiny house living. I don't think that we could actually do it with kids. Yeah, me either. I just don't. I saw people are fine with that, I just not having the privacy.

Speaker 2:

I think I'm already in the tiniest house that I could possibly be in and we're not thriving in that environment, particularly because Geo works at home. I work at home like Eden is going to be 12 and he still technically shares a room with the two littles, even though everyone's really in my bed. But like especially Eli right now, he's like I have no place, like he doesn't want him in the room. When he's there doing his computer stuff, like he feels really misplaced. So I'm like if we got any smaller of a house, I love the idea of living more modestly, less less stuff, like the consumerism of it all.

Speaker 1:

I like I love the idea of that, but I just know that it wouldn't be realistic for me and my family Right, especially at this stage in our lives. But I also feel like I think something about I grew up without having, like my parents didn't own a house, so we moved around a lot and we lived in apartments, and there's something about having like a home to go home to when you're an adult Like I. The house that my mom owns now is not the house I grew up in, so like even though I know that's my mom's house like I don't have a bedroom there, like I didn't.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

And it's just something about very old school.

Speaker 2:

It's so old school. Like and I feel like I want to be able to have a home that, like my adult children, can come home to Like my parents going to home because they were my parents didn't have me until my mom was 36 and my dad was almost 40, you know. So they were from that like time like they got married in the 80s, so like houses were like 13 cents and it was like everybody from that era like I feel like owned a house because they did.

Speaker 1:

It was yeah, so my parents are only 18 when they had me, so they weren't.

Speaker 2:

Well, there's that, and like they're like, not even at like the tail end of that Right Right. And I feel like the housing market got brutal not too far after that. So I feel like if I I mean if my parents were from a different time that I wouldn't have had that either.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, yeah, so we didn't. So my parents were only 18 when they had me and you know we jumped around like from apartment to apartment because they were so young and yeah, they just it wasn't realistic at the time and I know that's so stupid. Like you shouldn't you shouldn't be buying your house for, like, your adult children, but like I don't know, I just want my kids to grow up in the same house. There's that too.

Speaker 2:

Like I want them to like I don't know, always have someone to go home to if they need to, but like that's again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, you already have this house.

Speaker 2:

This is what I like, in addition to having a tiny home, but the minimalist thought Behind it like okay, so I couldn't do like a tiny home, but I'm like I could do like an eco-friendly home and I thought about yeah, too yeah doing like I don't know. I've watched so crazy things like inside, like gardens with all of your things, and then like the rainwater, like yeah like there's just so many things.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, oh, I have no fucking idea about that, but that sounds nice too. But am I really that kind of chick? No, mm-hmm, those are fleeting. Like yeah, I'm not gonna keep up with that. Like I thought of, like I think we want to buy land. This was when we were gonna move to Texas, that's. That was the allure of it is that we would have like kind of free reign to design our own house. I think we want to buy land and then build. And I was like so what are we gonna do? Like live in a trailer and In onsite? No, and I was like, but then I could like, get the cattle ready. What are you talking about? And I'm like, like, how much land, though? Like is it gonna, can we like? And he's like we're not buying a farm. That I would do on a farm, but that's like where my mind goes. But I'm like, okay, no, like a lot of land, yeah, a lot of land, build a house. And like he's like we can have like some chickens and stuff.

Speaker 1:

But I'm not, like, I'm not trying to be a farmer like a hundred acres. No, that's my dream. My dream is to have a family fucking compound Like a big plot of land and have, like my mom, have a house, my siblings and their significant others and their families and my dad, and like I would love everybody to have their own house on the land and we'd all take care of the farm and we'd like.

Speaker 2:

I get our food from the farm little house on the prairie style. Yes, I feel like in theory that sounds good and on paper it looks good, but I'm like I don't want anybody in my space. They don't have to be in your space, you have your own house. My mother-in-law keeps, keeps rolling around the idea to get a house with an in-law, and I'm like Elba, I want to remind you so the beginning of this relationship, when we all live together, and how Horribly that went. Yeah, I definitely think we're space kind of people.

Speaker 1:

We are too much. Pat, I come from a big family and like we love to be around family but we are probably like Pack it packets overwhelmed because my family is bigger and closer than his is and he gets like Can we just? Just not do anything with anyone other than the four of us.

Speaker 2:

Today I have like a huge family, so it's like exciting to be able to go to these big family parties and stuff like that and like that's kind of where I, where it ends for me, like I don't want to want to be able to go home. Yeah, I don't want to live in the same I don't want to drive up the same driveway as you. See, I don't mind that.

Speaker 1:

So, like my dad, lived with us for eight months and like he was fine, it was temporary and like it wasn't a big deal. He lived in our we have a finished basement and he lived down there for a little while and it wasn't a big deal and I definitely Like, if you know, considering the circumstances is fine, right. I don't think I'd want to do like the in-law thing, unless, I mean, unless I had to like my mom. My parents are both so young right now, so but it was like a matter of like taking care of one of my parents when they're older.

Speaker 1:

But, rick, right now that's not an issue, they're not there at all, but I know a lot of a lot of Families are doing like more communal living now, just because the prices of houses are so insane that People are like parents are selling their homes and moving in with their kids and helping take care of the grandkids and like, yeah, that I just think that like where the ages my kids are at right now and like the kind of care like Eden needs and stuff.

Speaker 2:

I think having outside help would be hurtful more than it would be helpful. And I, just for the moment, I think I'm going to be like I just for me at where we're at right now. I don't, I just it doesn't sound. Oh, I totally get it it doesn't feel like me.

Speaker 2:

I like the idea of Like and we've talked about with like his cousin's stuff, like all going in buying however much, building houses and all that. But I'm like I don't know how much I could really rely on other people to like Pay the bills. No, not pay the bills, but like if we wanted to do the whole feed, and I'm thinking yeah, you know.

Speaker 1:

So my, my Sister, is marrying Her fiance. They're gonna marry this year he's. He and Patrick are best friends. They grew up together. They've known each other since they were kids and like I could totally see them like being farmhands. Like I could totally like it would be my dream of. Like they would just run the farm together and my sister and I would learn how to make sourdough. I'll be like little house on the prairie.

Speaker 2:

I feel like I I start like in my mind I build these really like grandiose plans and it takes me a while before I'm like can I keep up with that? And I start getting nervous because it's like I would sell my Current everything and just like, yeah, fuck it. And then like nine minutes into the situation I'd be like what have I done?

Speaker 2:

I Don't think this is for me and I think that's why I'm nervous about, you know, buying a house and committing to something, because I'm like it's scary, it's super scary. I changed my mind so fast, so I'm like well, we got this and that's also why I'm not buying a farm, you know right.

Speaker 1:

Well, we bought this house because I mean I love this house, but like I wanted, and so did Pat, we wanted. We did not want like a A split level or a raised ranch. We preferred, like the living space to be on the first floor and then the bedrooms. Yeah, the second floor like that was, and we knew that we wanted something with characters, so we bought an old house. My house is gonna be a hundred years old in a few years, that's so cool and you buying an old house man.

Speaker 1:

You think you want it and then you realize how much work actually needs to be done.

Speaker 2:

It has to do with depending on the materials it was built with initially and upgrades that have already been in place.

Speaker 1:

And they're half-assed upgrades, so you have to go back and do them. Every wall in my house is horsehair plaster and if there's not, and they're all textured, and if so, if it's not the actual exposed plaster wall, it's wallpaper that's also textured Like. This is wallpaper that is textured wallpaper and it's over the horsehair plaster that was a risk to paint that. Well, it was already painted Over the. Look yeah, it was already painted, so I just painted over it because I didn't even realize that was textured.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, removing the wallpaper, my walls would just f**king crumble because it's horsehair plaster and they were already painted over, which is even harder to remove, and so it's just like there's a lot of stuff like that and unless I'm like willing to invest the time and money to redry wall my entire house, which I like is just not feasible right now I have to live with it, which is fine, but, like you don't think, like when we first saw this house, we were like, oh, it's fine, we'll live with it, but then, like I have like holes in my wall up the stairs because it's plaster and it's crumbling and we have to keep preparing it with like so I have these patches all along my wall.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, buying a home it's hard Like do you want the new home?

Speaker 2:

or do you want the old home? And it's hard to even know what to look at as far as, like, geo had investment properties. So as far as, like, we're a little, we have an upper hand as far as knowing what to look for, what would cost a lot of money to fix and repairs, and what we're willing to and not. So, again, everything that's been a failure is actually a learning curve, like, so, as far as that, I think we're in a pretty good space. As far as, like, what to look at in buying a house if we weren't going to build which, again, we're still kind of just like.

Speaker 1:

It's all up in the air and everything's so insane.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I really do want to start making more things, like instead of buying. But like we talked about last week about picky kids like if I were to Well, actually, you know I've made bread a few times, or different kinds of bread, and they're always like yes, I love it, it's so good. So if I were to start like baking our own things versus buying in store, which that's kind of something I have to just like pull the trigger on because I feel like you just have to commit to it, man, because, like the sourdough starter when we tried it, I wish I could get started from somewhere else.

Speaker 2:

You can if someone else.

Speaker 1:

You can get freeze dry starter. Well, we can. Like did we talk about? We were going to lean into the ballerina farm thing, the whole controversy did you read about it?

Speaker 2:

I did a little bit.

Speaker 1:

What is the?

Speaker 2:

controversy that they actually have money in our so simple living.

Speaker 1:

So, as far as alternative lifestyle, if you guys, I'm sure you've heard, but if you haven't heard about ballerina farm.

Speaker 2:

It's me I haven't, she hasn't.

Speaker 1:

It's this farm, this woman who, like she, has social media, like a ton of followers on TikTok and Instagram. She just had her eighth kid and she's also she just.

Speaker 2:

See, that's what I don't want about alternative living. Like that's it. Stop knocking me up.

Speaker 1:

I think they're Mormon though, and they both come from Mormon families who all both have a lot of kids, so that was like something that they her and her husband both really liked, that they came from big family, so they wanted that.

Speaker 2:

I mean, yeah, I think people have those like kind of things, but that's not what I'm going to be doing.

Speaker 1:

Right. So she just had her eighth baby and she also competed in Mrs America. So there's a couple things that are, quote unquote, controversial. I'll just put it out there. I don't think it's controversial. I was like so far what I read, I don't. I'll tell you my thoughts and here's, here's the whole thing.

Speaker 2:

So the controversy is that she.

Speaker 1:

it's detrimental or unhealthy to the average woman to be putting out there that in 12 days postpartum you're competing in a pageant.

Speaker 2:

Well, because they're like, it's not realistic and that like for most people that says these exact same thing, as Kate Middleton leaving the hospital with their hair done and right. It's so. It's the same kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

So people are saying, well, that's, that's not good, that doesn't put, send a good message to the average woman. Like people were commenting, like can't we just normalize?

Speaker 2:

like it's not Doing anything to. That's not her platform, right and yet, but your honey, you're in the wrong spot. If you knew that's what she was interested in when you followed, yeah, so she made the commitment to be in this pageant.

Speaker 1:

So, yes, she had a baby, but she made the commitment to be in this pageant, so she did. She had to do to be ready for the pageant. Is that everyone's Plan?

Speaker 1:

no, but so then the other thing that this is the whole this is the bigger controversy Is that her husband is an heir Because his father owns jet blue and a couple other airlines, so they're loaded. So people are like, well, she's out here like running a farm, because she has the means to do that. Yeah, it costs a lot of money to run a farm. And don't act like if you didn't have that access, you wouldn't do it too.

Speaker 2:

Like people like, yeah, so that's basically what I read online and I'm like where the fuck is the controversy? The controversy oh oh, is a rich person living like they're fucking rich. What are you guys mad about?

Speaker 1:

They're like oh, they're old, they're making their own, they're living more modestly, they're living a more simple life. Yes, they're teaching their kids how to run a farm. They're running a bit, just because the father don't you wish that other rich people would be Doing like the Kardashians are out here just buying shit and having lavish parties and like flaunting their money. These people aren't flaunting their money. They're investing it into a farm. They're employing local people to help run the farm with something about their kids responsibility.

Speaker 2:

The stove that she had was like $500,000. I saw 30, but she bought it secondhand or some shit. But I think, yeah, maybe it is more expensive. I mean, obviously, if it's new it's more expensive.

Speaker 1:

But like people were jumping on that too, and it's like I think that she never once acted like she was poor, tried to hide that she had that stove right.

Speaker 2:

It's not like you guys uncovered a secret. I'm sorry, I this is one of those stories to me. That is like you're trying to find a problem where there's like no.

Speaker 1:

Business it's a business. They they send out their starter. So they send out sourdough starter. They freeze, dry it and you can buy it. They also send out baked goods. I think you can buy their meat like I think I saw someone review it like the shipping is like $70 just for the shipping. So it's a little outrageous, yeah but, they're a brand, and just because her husband has money Doesn't mean that they shouldn't start their own, like they're investing that money right their own and it's not something for kids.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I mean, if there, that's not what I thought we were getting into, I thought there was gonna be like she was like slave labor.

Speaker 1:

Fine, people are just bitch like people just bitch about everything, like they can't just let people live listen.

Speaker 2:

You guys are salty because everyone's trying to make their own sourdough right now and that shit's fucking hard. I'm gonna tell you what. I had like a little competition going on, cuz there was like five or six people Brittany included that Were doing the sourdough thing and only one of those people ended up even making a fucking loaf of bread because they got their starter from Someone else.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was trying to make my own starter and I was also trying to make two at a time, because each of my kids wanted their Own and that's what you guys are mad about.

Speaker 2:

Let this bitch live. Why are we not mad about Taylor Swift using her fucking jet for like?

Speaker 1:

I'm not hanging on Taylor.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, you know what I mean. I know you guys are gonna come for me for this, but I like things that are actually Mattering, like she's. I mean I don't know, I really don't. I don't see what the problem is.

Speaker 1:

I know there's literally no problem with this family.

Speaker 2:

So you're mad, we're mad because she's rich.

Speaker 1:

They're saying they were born into money. She's portraying an image that is.

Speaker 2:

I like to say though like did she ask you To?

Speaker 1:

make assumptions like that?

Speaker 2:

Did she ask you to start living like that? Did she try to recruit?

Speaker 1:

anybody that's like people are like well, it's not realistic like to have a kids to make the bread, to make the food, to run the farm, so so you're mad. She's living her Lifestyle which is what you want to do.

Speaker 2:

It's not realistic for you To live that lifestyle bitch.

Speaker 1:

That's basically what the problem is. That's what all these women are like. Well, Many shoes it's like no, it's not realistic for me with my two kids and my Barely surviving month-to-month because we make right enough money to pair bills.

Speaker 2:

Let me rewrite the controversy here. We're gonna rewrite it where it was Okay. So she came on social media and told the story. I'm saying this is completely made up and this is what would Be considered controversial. So she starts her Instagram and they're living in a one-bedroom apartment and already have three of those kids. And then they say that they're gonna live like a minimalistic lifestyle to save up to buy the farmland and then sold her eggs to come up with the $80,000 to start that farm and Then somehow came up with enough money to build that house and they were completely self-started. And then, five or ten years on, her eighth kid while she was doing that page and it came out that his dad yeah, but that's that's not what.

Speaker 1:

That's not what happened exactly. So that would be a country if she was lying to you, but she's not. She never once said she was poor and she's, I'd hide it.

Speaker 2:

She's not acting like poor, she's a rich person, I think like a rich person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's just living a more simple lifestyle, and what's wrong with wanting a more simple life style and kids more simple.

Speaker 2:

Living in a big house with a $30,000 oven Means that those kids are having simple, I think might be the wrong word here.

Speaker 1:

I think that it living a more simple lifestyle because they're out on the floor, they work on the farm a more.

Speaker 2:

Slow-paced, what is it called? Like a more Fucking Christ, like it? Basic and simple are the wrong words, I feel like, but I feel like it might be less. I don't even then, though, having like the $30,000 stove.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean but yeah, but it's a touch of it, like it is more rustic. I mean it's just. Yeah, I'm having that aesthetic like everything's more rustic there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you also do. Yeah, you still have the money and I'm sure those kids are not like Needing for they're not struggling, yeah not at all. So yeah, I mean, I just it's there's, there's nothing controversial? No, not at all.

Speaker 1:

I just think that like there's nothing wrong with wanting it like they used to live in New York. They didn't hide that either. They lived in New York City, they were city people, they didn't hide that.

Speaker 2:

This is a Terrain situation to me.

Speaker 1:

She said we just wanted we were living in New York City. And she said her husband looked at her one day. I was like are they on the subway, I think? And he was. She was just like they know, we don't want to do this anymore. So they decided to buy a farmland so they could have a different lifestyle for their kids.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, which is nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1:

There's no, I mean. So anyway, back to alternative lifestyles.

Speaker 2:

I was hoping that I just couldn't find.

Speaker 1:

You wanted there to be more juicy details. Sorry to let you down.

Speaker 2:

She's like did you hear about the ballerina farm?

Speaker 1:

I Was like. I felt like it could go to tie into our alternative life side.

Speaker 2:

I haven't tell me, tell me and I thought that there was gonna be, like a wormhole to go down, but I do literally nothing.

Speaker 1:

It's like personal opinion and most people are making a big it sounded like it was gonna be the ballerina farm.

Speaker 2:

I Thought there was gonna be bodies, because she's a Juilliard ballerina.

Speaker 1:

I, that's where I got.

Speaker 2:

They were gonna be like selling meat, and the meat wasn't gonna actually only be cow meat. I thought I'm gonna be that there was gonna be like they slaughtered old retired dancers and that's where I'm going.

Speaker 2:

Actually, you want to hear the funniest thing. So my husband so, if you guys don't know, I'm really heavy into like crime junkie and like all kinds of like Murder, mystery kind of things, and that's just always been like my comfort area. Yeah, um, so like we, we just that's always like kind of on like cold case files, yeah, all of that. So my husband's team that he runs at work Like had two or three analysts that were out sick and his like right-hand man was out sick, who is actually a woman but whatever. So he got a Text message. It was she called him Giovanni and she always calls him Gio, and then Was like I'm gonna be out sick for another day, I just want to let you know, whatever it is. And she he was like okay, no problem. And she said thank you, heart. And he said and I was like you think, and he's like her husband killed her and Is trying to cover it up right now because she doesn't call me Giovanni and the heart.

Speaker 2:

And I was like, okay, so this is what we have to do, you need to get her on the phone. She's like cuz, I'm thinking that like the husband has a phone and like he doesn't, I mean I don't know. And I'm like, yeah, so you just need to like, get someone to call her in here, her voice, but if it keeps being husband, yeah, that's a major red flag. And he's like I'm mad that I'm even thinking about this because this is all we watch and I'm like, but here's the thing I mean in a situation like that, yeah, that is weird. So he's like in.

Speaker 2:

What I want to think is that, like her husband, she has, she's sick, so she had her husband text for her, and you know, that's just that's what he came up with. And I'm like, yeah, but I'm like it always starts off with like, but you know, we had nothing to really be worried about, but you find out something like this happened and there is actually like a missing person. You know what I mean. And so, yeah, yesterday he was like oh, she came back to work, she's not okay, yeah, so nothing crazy happened. But yeah, that's the mindset that we automatically go into.

Speaker 2:

But I just want to make, like, the announcement that if you feel like Something could be a little bit off, even if nothing is really off, that it's not weird to want to check up on something like that, right, right, is that an unpopular thought? Or like I feel like we live in a time but where, like, it always starts off. Or there's a lot of times where it's like, yeah, we didn't really know that I mean, there was nothing really, there was no red flags, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

I've been watching a lot of documentaries, not about murders, but I've been watching, like then, natalia Grace, curious case of Natalia Grace. Have you seen that one?

Speaker 2:

I don't know what's the story because I watched so many that they all kind of really do. She's a little person and. Oh yeah, no, I know, I didn't like they tried.

Speaker 1:

The family had her re-aged because they adopted her from the Ukraine and yeah, I heard about that, but I never have to watch the documentary.

Speaker 2:

I saw enough like, but I never. I didn't start doing it.

Speaker 1:

So, yes, our brands automatically Sometimes go to like worst case scenario, but in the case of the ballerina farm, there was none, yeah, there was just there, wasn't even like that, wasn't even like cold brew tea.

Speaker 2:

There was no tea, there no tea. What's?

Speaker 1:

an.

Speaker 2:

I have hold on. Let me check my list of alternative life style.

Speaker 1:

What about like like living life on the road. Oh, yes, that's actually my number one man living in a camper, that's the first one or like a tour bus things.

Speaker 2:

So we've talked about, especially during COVID, that instead of buying a house, we were gonna spend that money on like RV. And Since the kids were remote, geo was remote and there was they they said that like when, where he was working at the time, there was never gonna be like an in-person job again, like they just sold that building and it went fully remote. He was like, hey, do you want to? So this one was actually his idea and it was after the Texas move idea.

Speaker 2:

So I had already like Sorry, got into the mindset of like not being around family and having to just really mom and dad the hell out of a situation and I was like you know what the idea of always being in a new location, new Like Seasons- back a meeting all over again that sounds fun. So, yeah, we really um, like we started like pricing out things and like where are we gonna Put things in storage? To like come back to and like what would we have to like Keep in?

Speaker 2:

what kind of storage solutions like on, like these RVs, like could there be, so that we would have all kinds of different like snow a tire and also like Beach a tire, and like what kind of like things could we actually like bring with us? So yeah, that's something that I still don't think that I'm a hundred percent.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I could do it long term like you would have to only be for like a year or two.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I definitely don't think that would be like our our, and I'll be all because, like some people do it, though they friggin love, they love it.

Speaker 1:

They homeschool their kids.

Speaker 2:

And that was another we've we've thought about homeschooling, but I know 100% I am not like a. I am not like a. I need too many breaks for my kids. That like, if they weren't doing an online home schooling, that I would have to actually like Be the teacher. I don't think that I'm the kind of person that I could find that Fulfilling. So if we were gonna do the home schooling, we would be doing the online home schooling, where the curriculum would already be right.

Speaker 2:

And there would be like an online teacher kind of structure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, also, though like I don't think that now would be a good idea because of the kind of like hands-on intervention Eden needs for autism.

Speaker 2:

And then just also where Eli is, like I just feel like we're like kind of in the space now, in when we're living, that like I don't think that we're in a space that it would make sense for us to do that. And like right now I feel I'm really comfy and this goes back to not wanting to move out of state because I'm comfy Like I think we're in a good school system and like when Eden was younger, we he started kindergarten in one district and then he finished kindergarten another district and then he started first grade in that same kindergarten district, but then we moved to where we currently are now and he finished first grade and then, like, since first grade, he's now in sixth in the same district and now Eli has started kindergarten in the same district and I just like I like that we're in the same area, right, and that kind of goes yeah, but that's like the same thing as like having to like giving your kids a home, mm-hmm, right in the same place.

Speaker 2:

It's like, but mine's not like.

Speaker 1:

The actual home piece is the like the hometown I jumped around I went from. So I kindergarten first grade in one school and then second, third and fourth in another elementary school and then fifth in another elementary school. Then middle school and High school were the same, but I did move again, multiple, like within that time frame I moved like three times and I two or three times from middle school to high school, like just different, look I had the same house, the same school district from the time that I really like ever even started school.

Speaker 2:

Like my parents moved into the house that I grew up in when I my sister, I just turned one right, so like we don't really know like another school district or whatever our house, until we were 16 and my parents decided to split up. And then that's when the hopping around started Happening. But by that point I had already dropped out of school. So like it didn't really like mean the thing. But I mean like if I said that I didn't always think about Going back to that house that now doesn't even look like the same house or any of the things, I would be lying and I mean I kind of want to have that for my kids. But I want where we end up to be where we end up, right, at least while the kids are living at home.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can see that. What about like the nomadic lifestyle? But it was something different, damn it um oh buying and.

Speaker 2:

Our brains are like Buying a house and fixing it up while you're living it in and flipping, flipping.

Speaker 1:

That's something also that we thought about, and I mean because geo has had investment properties and can he buy an investment property and I will flip it for him and then we'll like get into business together flipping houses.

Speaker 2:

I would fucking love that and yeah, I mean, yeah, that's something that I've wanted to do and so we'll do it. Right now, I think we want to live somewhere, but I mean, like he is always really heavily on the idea like that he wants to buy like a multifamily, and whether that be a two, three, six unit multifamily, but like my thing is I think that yeah or at least that's gonna be like our start thing.

Speaker 2:

But like what I don't want to do is I am just like I feel like I'm really not even in the place that I want to Like share walls with anybody, yeah, but at the end of the day they say so if your first buy is an investment property, that it really just makes overall more sense financially and Equity and where you go forward, that it's gonna make more sense in all aspects to that. Be what it is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah but I don't know that we necessarily, or at least like if he's gonna get me in any kind of mindset or where I want to be, to be just like in any investment property that like I don't think that I want to be, that's where I want to be living, right? So because then again I think that really just comes down to like where we're gonna, how much we're gonna have to uproot the kids and if that were to ever come, a Investment property that there would, there would be like a partner situation, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't, yeah, so it's not gonna be completely 100% out of the realm of possibility.

Speaker 1:

But I think, yeah, if there was another hyper Fixation for alternative living that I have jumped on is moving to another country. I Fully invested on what like moving to Greece.

Speaker 2:

Like what we've also thought about it too, and and the COVID Trump era of the United States. I don't think we're 100% out of yeah that was not. Also something I just feel like.

Speaker 1:

I've watched, like other Families on social media, like on tiktok or YouTube, like I found a couple families who have done it, not just Greece, but like other countries. My sister-in-law lives in Italy.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna say or dual, she's dual citizenship.

Speaker 1:

So she and her husband and their daughter live in Italy. He plays basketball professionally and they're in Italy half of the year and they're they come to the United States for like a few months at a time in the summer, but like their just way of living is just so much more it's slower, it's more simple, it's and and they even just have access to things that I feel like like the farmers markets and like the daily shopping and like the food is Healthier.

Speaker 2:

I think Like I feel like we've kind of touched on this before that the. American dream and what the United States initially started off as like the running from the British government and wanting the kind of every man to have more For himself, and that kind of thing. I think we, the American, dreams kind of dead. We don't fucked up. Yeah, it's just not even that anymore and I feel like that we're in such a place, not even only ways of living the financial.

Speaker 1:

People just want more, more, more, more, more and the best of the best.

Speaker 2:

We're not going anywhere.

Speaker 1:

It's just like we're not on top for anything other than a military and yeah, but like, like the fact that we're just unhealthy like that and that in itself, like the food that we are, the food that we even have access to, is just like so bad for you and again, and I think that just really comes down to Are there a whole bunch of additives?

Speaker 2:

additives into Really anything In everything that we have? Yeah, do they all really need to be there? No, but what does it come down to money? Because if I'm gonna start a new cupcake brand and I don't know that my friend Sal has steaks in a company that is An additive or owns an additive, am I gonna be like, hey, so I'm starting this cupcake company, me, jim and Larry, I know that we all have steaks in this company for this additive, but there's not necessarily. I mean, there's not gonna be anything bad, good sideways, others or Four things. Why don't you just, you know, come on over here at your additive, yeah, and what does it always just come down to money. Is anyone? I mean, is it really gonna do anything? No, is it necessary? Also, no, and I just think that's just gonna always be.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that, I just think that like, yeah, the American dream is just totally changed. You know people are people are looking for old. I mean you. I think that a lot of people are looking for alternative ways of living.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're 100% not it, but I also do think I don't know if I've ever said this here, so, in, I don't know if this originally started like as a Hindu thing or whatever, but there will be like a 12-year Period, right, and that's like where it all just really falls and collapses and where there will be a paradigm shift and, and I think, hurrying right, yeah, we're in that so I want to say that we're Gonna be going into the five year of the 12 year Thing where it's just all gonna really collapse, and I don't think that that's necessarily an only America thing.

Speaker 2:

It's gonna be global, mm-hmm. So I think, at the end of the day, I I just are there better places that if we were going to move or live in a different place, it it be better, some Maybe more long-term? I just I don't think that you're ever gonna really escape it right globally. I think there's going to be a global somehow in any regard. If it's gonna be a power collapse, is it going to be whatever, but it's all gonna start over right in some way. Whether I'm gonna say I don't want to say that it's gonna be a full collapse Societal collapse, is it gonna be a technological somehow collapse?

Speaker 1:

but I think that it's amazing if, like, social media just went away for like five years and no more communication anymore. I mean I don't.

Speaker 2:

I can't speculate in what I think it's really all gonna be. I just think like in some way, I think that we're all gonna really have to start over a shift.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's just gonna. It's gonna be a shift and there's gonna be a start over in some way, and I just think that we really have, in a lot of industries, ways, people moving, what will be accepted, not be accepted, and we're just really in it, right. So, yeah, things might be getting better if we're gonna. Just the only thing we're gonna worry about is the housing market. No, you're missing it all, right, and on that note, I feel like we just could really end the the episode there, because we're going through a collapse.

Speaker 1:

You should find an alternative way to live.

Speaker 2:

It's all gonna end doomsday. No, I mean it's not, though, because, yeah, going back to the manifestation episode and all the things, I just I feel like if you're really gonna get into the that kind of mindset and things and it's just like we're not even just only spiritually Seeing those kind of things, it's, it's more than that, right, yeah, and you're saying we're talking wars, people's deaths, illness, and I'm not even gonna say that we're gonna just it's not all biblical, but just in any way, if you're one of those, end all be all things. It's not gonna be the whole world exploding, it's. It's a paradigm shift.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't think the world's ending. I just think the world as we know the world is, you know it right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, we're there, we're in it, so something else happening. Sorry, I was playing that's okay.

Speaker 2:

I've been All day, all right. So, like follow, go do all things on socials. If you're watching this on YouTube, hey, subscribe do it.

Speaker 1:

Thanks, bye.

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