Millennial Moms Unfiltered

Mommy's Little Helper Cannabis in the Quest for Calm Parenting

May 01, 2024 Ashley Pena & Brittni Pilkington Episode 20
Mommy's Little Helper Cannabis in the Quest for Calm Parenting
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Millennial Moms Unfiltered
Mommy's Little Helper Cannabis in the Quest for Calm Parenting
May 01, 2024 Episode 20
Ashley Pena & Brittni Pilkington

Ever wondered how a puff of cannabis might shift the dynamics of parenting? Join me and my candid comrade, Brittni, as we peel back the layers of this topic with humor and heart. Sipping on a glass of wine while the kids are in bed is one thing, but what about marijuana? We share our personal journeys with cannabis, drawing parallels to the relaxation some find in a glass of red, and discuss the potential for a more patient, anxiety-free approach to parenting. But it's not all fun and games; we address the crucial balance of moderation and the evolving legal landscape of medical and recreational use.

Navigating through the centuries, we trace cannabis from its antiquity to the uproar of the 1970s war on drugs, revealing the striking contrast between historical reverence and modern taboo. The discussion doesn't shy away from the hard-hitting topics of racial injustice and incarceration, nor does it overlook the progress we're starting to see with decreasing stigma. We also swap stories about the disparate impacts of alcohol and cannabis, offering a slice of our lives as an illustration of the larger societal picture.

Wrapping up, we engage in the more whimsical side of weed, from the hilarity of edibles-induced shopping sprees to the serious business of managing impulses, particularly for those of us juggling ADHD. Our episode flirts with the serious implications of privilege and race in the world of cannabis, and we invite you to chuckle over our tales while also pondering the weightier issues we present. Don’t forget to check out our merchandise, designed for those who appreciate an open dialogue on parenting, pot, and the quirks of life.

Links:

Canabis Positive Mama: Shonitria Anthony https://www.instagram.com/bluntblowinmama/

Them: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08XXDRJKH/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s1

The Program: https://www.netflix.com/title/81579761?source=35

MMU Shop: https://millennialmomsunfiltered.myshopify.com/



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Ever wondered how a puff of cannabis might shift the dynamics of parenting? Join me and my candid comrade, Brittni, as we peel back the layers of this topic with humor and heart. Sipping on a glass of wine while the kids are in bed is one thing, but what about marijuana? We share our personal journeys with cannabis, drawing parallels to the relaxation some find in a glass of red, and discuss the potential for a more patient, anxiety-free approach to parenting. But it's not all fun and games; we address the crucial balance of moderation and the evolving legal landscape of medical and recreational use.

Navigating through the centuries, we trace cannabis from its antiquity to the uproar of the 1970s war on drugs, revealing the striking contrast between historical reverence and modern taboo. The discussion doesn't shy away from the hard-hitting topics of racial injustice and incarceration, nor does it overlook the progress we're starting to see with decreasing stigma. We also swap stories about the disparate impacts of alcohol and cannabis, offering a slice of our lives as an illustration of the larger societal picture.

Wrapping up, we engage in the more whimsical side of weed, from the hilarity of edibles-induced shopping sprees to the serious business of managing impulses, particularly for those of us juggling ADHD. Our episode flirts with the serious implications of privilege and race in the world of cannabis, and we invite you to chuckle over our tales while also pondering the weightier issues we present. Don’t forget to check out our merchandise, designed for those who appreciate an open dialogue on parenting, pot, and the quirks of life.

Links:

Canabis Positive Mama: Shonitria Anthony https://www.instagram.com/bluntblowinmama/

Them: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B08XXDRJKH/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s1

The Program: https://www.netflix.com/title/81579761?source=35

MMU Shop: https://millennialmomsunfiltered.myshopify.com/



https://linktr.ee/millennialmomsunfiltered?utm_source=linktree_admin_share

Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to today's episode of Millennial Moms Unfiltered. We're going to be talking about smoking weed as a parent. This is a touchy subject for some people, but I come armed with facts and statistics, obviously. So, without further ado, let's get into it. Today we're at my house and my cats are just like really um micromanaging, so I apologize um where they pop up.

Speaker 2:

well, look, how good it looks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it looks like we know what we're doing. It looks like a real pod. It looks like a real pod. It's only because I've thrown out most of my things in the past two years.

Speaker 2:

I have not done that yet I'm out of breath.

Speaker 1:

It's because these pants are too tight. It was a mistake, a mistake.

Speaker 2:

I forgot that we were talking about um weed as a stigma for parents today, so I'm really excited yeah, I was like, which episode are we going to do first?

Speaker 1:

and then I forgot to ask you and I was like, oh shit, I've got to just say what I'm going to say and just go with it all right. So, brittany, how do you feel about smoking weed? As a parent, I love it.

Speaker 2:

I am a proud can of mom. I don't smoke in front of my kids and I don't smoke like a ridiculous amount of weed, but I use weed. The same way the average person drinks wine.

Speaker 1:

That's, that was how this conversation came up with. The person that floated this idea to me, um is that people think it's no big deal to like have a drink, yeah, daily, and it's totally normal for like a mom to have mom time and like take a bath and have a glass of wine.

Speaker 2:

I take a bath and I have a joint while while patrick is home and taking care of kids Responsible, responsibly. Yeah, I'm not an irresponsible user, but I definitely use it for anxiety. It helps me stay calmer. It honestly makes me a better parent. I feel like I'm way more patient and more relaxed and helps with my pain.

Speaker 1:

Right, so I don't smoke regularly, I will like once in a while.

Speaker 1:

Geo um smokes regularly and, like he really is a better parent, like yeah, he has a way longer fuse and is more patient.

Speaker 1:

Um, so it definitely helps him, especially because, like he works from home, he doesn't like leave often, so he's here all the time so he has the kids in the background, so it's like his fuse is is pretty in line with where I'm at. So when I'm fed up and while I'm having a ridiculous day with them, he knows about it because he can hear it right, right. So by the time he gets out here, he's like, why are you doing this to your mother? So he'll smoke and he'll, it'll reset the vibe and everyone, like I, can step away and have like a minute and know that he's not gonna be like overwhelmed with the whole situation too. So, um, and then, like, I'll do edibles. I have an extensive history with weed um that it just did not go well, like when I was younger I didn't know how to like dose it. Like, obviously, when you're a kid and you're just like not a kid, but like you're a teenager and everyone just like smokes and gets zooted, like you know.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think that's the difference between some cannabis users and others, and also the stigma of it being bad. I didn't start smoking until I was 21. Yeah, I had no interest. I was a teenager. I had friends who smoked. I was friends with a lot of stoners, but I just wasn't into it, and so I don't think I ever went through that phase. It was always pretty responsibly handled on my end and it was always pretty responsibly handled on my end.

Speaker 1:

Um so, and it was always social. Every time we talk about your life, I'm just like wow, you're really like. You're like I'm such a mess, I'm such a mess, but I never smoked weed um as a teen.

Speaker 2:

I've always really limited my intake well wait, I grew up with parents who smoked weed, so it was very it was normal. Like sorry, I really congested it was super normal, like it wasn't like a weird thing.

Speaker 1:

So I just didn't really have an interest in it because, like I felt weird not having an interest because, like I was, I grew up.

Speaker 1:

My dad was an alcoholic, so I was very like straight edge is the wrong word but I had a flawed, uh or not healthy relationship or view with any kind of substance really.

Speaker 1:

So, um, when I smoked as a teen, it was like to rebel, and then I was hanging out with people that were young and not responsible, so, it's like you just like, smoked a whole bunch and then I had people that, um, would lace the weed with fucking like vicodin and shit. So it's just like I didn't have good experience and I'm like you know what I don't like to smoke, because every time I smoke it's I'm not having a good time and I would get really paranoid. Oh yeah, it's definitely not for everyone. And and then as well, now I have a good relationship with it because I know what to do and now we have like places that you can trust and know what strains you're getting, like it's literally it's legal, like you, can, which is I didn't think I'd ever see the day where I was like driving down the highway and drive through dispensary, like you can literally drive through with your kids in the car and get weed.

Speaker 2:

It's not legal everywhere, though, right, not everywhere. No, it's not legal federally and it's only legal in some states.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and some is only legal in some states.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and some is only medical and some is only. Some is only legal medically, not recreationally. But Rhode Island is a legal state and Massachusetts is legal state, so we're in neighboring states.

Speaker 1:

Right, so we're good all around. And yeah, it is crazy because, especially in the early 2000s, when we're still on like the drug war bullshit, weed was always like the gateway drug.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, that's kind of what I always grew up thinking too.

Speaker 1:

it was like, but you know what I just I still, even now, I've never been like I fucking wonder what it's like to do meth I've never had that feeling.

Speaker 2:

I think that that comes with.

Speaker 1:

Like, I think, if you're gonna if you're gonna do meth you you're probably going to end up at meth. You know you're going to get there, regardless if you smoked weed or not. Right, yes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that's. It depends on who you're hanging out with and like how. I think what's the word I'm looking for.

Speaker 1:

Or even like cocaine. I've hung out with people that like do cocaine regularly, not anymore. But I went through a phase of a group of people that just were not the right people for me and I was never like down, like.

Speaker 2:

I was never interested in any drugs. I've never wanted to do any other drugs. I've never tried any other drugs. I've never even done shrooms Like I've never. I've never wanted to do any other drugs. I've never tried any other drugs. I've never even done shrooms Like I've never.

Speaker 1:

I've done shrooms and I love shrooms. Yeah, I've just, but I was scared to do that because of the like paranoia.

Speaker 2:

Bad trip.

Speaker 1:

With weed and stuff. But I was like, do it and I did and it was great yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean I've like considered it. I just I feel I don't like to be out of control. Weed doesn't make me feel out of control, weed makes me feel more in control.

Speaker 1:

I didn't feel out of control with shrooms. I only did a little bit.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I would do a whole thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it just scares me that I would have a really bad experience, but that's how I felt too that I didn't want to have a horrible trip, and you hear these horror stories, but it's like those are not the norm, you know.

Speaker 2:

I actually just saw. I follow this woman on Instagram. I can't remember her username, which makes me feel really bad, but I'll send it to Ashley and she can add it to the show notes or something because she's awesome. But she's all about like positive cannabis use for mothers. She discloses that she's used like during pregnancy. I didn't smoke during my either of my pregnancies um, I was just just nervous. The thing about like weed is.

Speaker 1:

I feel like there's not a whole bunch of great like studies on all of these things, like there's some and it's all been in the time frame of like that it's bad. So I feel like the lens on it is the thing like smoking weed during smoking weed smoking and ingesting smoke um, crystallizes the placenta. I know that's a thing that if it could cause some issues with nutrients getting to baby, but as far as like edibles.

Speaker 2:

I don't think edibles are. I mean, I don't know. I didn't do it just because of the fear of, like, there not being enough research and also I didn't like need to um, I didn't have like crazy nausea and stuff. But I know that other people have found the only comfort in their pregnancies is with marijuana usage, because they have like crazy pain or nausea, like what's that called, when you have it the whole.

Speaker 2:

Hypermesis scrabis gravidum yeah, like I can't imagine if, like, weed was the only thing that brought me relief right and now we have like, since it's legal and every not everyone but it's way more accessible.

Speaker 1:

And, like they do these trials and stuff, they can formulate things to take out the thc and then we're looking at just cbd and it's like cannabis is one of those things that you can do so fucking much with it and there should be more research, but I think we're heading in that direction we definitely are now that it's getting more legalized.

Speaker 2:

But this woman, she just posted um in california cannabis has officially been taken off of like the cps, like it's not a reason it can't, but cannabis use alone cannot be a reason for CPS involvement, whereas it it used to be. So that is a huge step. That's like huge step. It's definitely in places where it's legal recreationally. If there's like a report or something. For the most part from what I've heard, it's like they just kind of make sure that the kids are being taken care of it's not out in the open.

Speaker 2:

You're doing it responsibly, Like it's the same way they would treat alcohol in legal places. But it can still be a call which is like bonkers to me.

Speaker 1:

So I just want to read I have I didn't cut these down so they're pretty long but I just want to talk about the oldest known and written recorded. Cannabis use comes from a Chinese emperor, and that was like 27 bc, so like, yeah, really long ago. And then in greek culture, um, the romans are familiar with cannabis, while the middle east it was spread throughout islamic empire and then into north africa, um, so that's a really fucking long time ago that we're talking about weed. And then we want to scoot into the fucking 1970s where nixon decided decided that we're gonna roll this into the war on drugs.

Speaker 1:

And then, okay, I want to address the fact that my cat's name is nixon, but it's nyx, like her name. Her real name is nix, but I just say nixon because it's funny to me, but not after richard nixon, it's nix, like the goddess of the dark. You know, um, it has nothing to do with richard nixon, because, fuck that guy, he's. He. Uh, just if you listen to fucking bailey starion, um, dark history, his name comes up in almost every episode of these wormhole stories. She goes on it's like yo. So yeah, he's a goddamn mess and he's the one that started all this stuff. He's a goddamn mess.

Speaker 1:

And the reason that they were saying, or the fear-mongering around weed, was that it was causing more crime and the crime rates, the violent crime rates, were going up and all this stuff. Weed is horrible. If you smoke weed you're going to be whatever. Blah, blah, blah, um, and it was basically racist. It was racism. That, yeah, was like oh, look at all these poor black people and they're living all this crime and look at all this shit. And that's how they used it to like scare the white people into being like, yeah, we can't have weed around and that was like the narrative and that's been the narrative and locking people up and all that stuff.

Speaker 2:

How many people are? Do you have statistics on how many people have been like or how many people are still in jail for like nonviolent marijuana charges? It's a fuck ton, and even in states that it's now legal period, that it's legal, not just medicinal, let out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but we're not going to fucking do that because we're still a racist country. Fuck that. And then, if you don't agree with that, you can just go ahead to your little Google search engine and just look at the difference of the white people that are imprisoned for drug-related offenses and the black people that are in prison for drug-related offenses.

Speaker 1:

What you're going to find is that there are less black people in the population, but more of them in prison for these offenses, and it's not because they're doing it more, it's because we're looking for it. Yeah, um, and there's just, there's no way around that. Um, so that's when he started the war on drugs, but, um, what was another one that kind of fell in this? A cross study found that substantial prevalence of marijuana use among us parents living with offspring aged 12 to 30 years, and that 7.6 to 9.6 of parents reported past year marijuana use. 3.5 to 5.4 parents use marijuana on 52 days or more during the past year, reported in 2019. So that means that, like almost 10 percent of people have admitted smoking or using marijuana while they've been parents, and then up to five percent of parents use regularly. So that's not a huge number, but that's underreported I.

Speaker 2:

That is definitely underreported, not been comfortable talking about like smoking. Yeah, I don't, it's probably the first time I'm like, yeah, you know what, and I like I'll like share some stuff on Instagram sometimes, but like I don't really talk about it regularly. The people closest to me know that I smoke, but I think like the average person might not know.

Speaker 1:

Right and I think it's because, like still that Still that fear. I have the stigma against myself. But when you find out like who uses cannabis I think they're my people You're like huh what? Oh, I would never thought that. Because. Why? Because she bakes and has her shit together, and you know what I mean. When you talk to people and you find out like who uses weed, you're like didn't see that.

Speaker 2:

But you'll be surprised. I love being at the dispensary and seeing all the different people that you wouldn't expect I know there's a whole bunch of old people, old people, young people.

Speaker 1:

There's business people like, yeah, it's everybody.

Speaker 2:

It is such like a melting pot at the dispensary.

Speaker 1:

I love it, I know and then we have a lot of data showing how bad alcohol is and the adverse effects. Like the World Health Organization says, there's no safe use of alcohol and that was reported in 2023, as recent as 2023. And then you'll find these studies that it's like if you're healthy and you drink one glass of wine, this is a positive. Blah, blah, blah. It just doesn't. It's not enough. There's like barely barely any positives. Right, it's kind of like we're trying to scoop it together and find positives for alcohol, but overall the alcohol-related deaths and overconsumption car accidents it causes.

Speaker 2:

I have never felt out of control smoking weed. I've never once. I've never felt that out of control drinking either, like I've never blacked out or anything like that. Um, I'm one of those people who can kind of like snap out of it if necessary. But I've also been felt like. I felt way worse drunk, like dizzy, nauseous, vomiting like sick hungover I do not feel good when I drink.

Speaker 2:

I can't really drink anymore anyway, that's part of why I smoke um, I get wicked headaches if I drink like I can only drink certain beers and certain drinks if it's like low, low, low sugar, uh, but like I just don't find enjoyment in it. Right, because you're dealing with it for so much longer. My husband likes to drink, but he doesn't drink often. He'll have like whiskey on the rocks or no. What does he like? He likes bourbon.

Speaker 2:

Um whiskey yeah, he likes the fancy ones he's not like a jack daniels drinker yeah, um, so he'll do, or he loves old fashions, um, and he'll make himself maybe a drink or two on a saturday night, but doesn't drink during the week. He actually started smoking once.

Speaker 1:

He stopped drinking so much not that he was like an excessive drinker, but you know you start regularly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, once you're not, once you're a parent, once you're not partying anymore, you slow down. And yeah, he, he prefers he smokes before bed. It helps him get to sleep. But yeah, he he'll have a couple drinks. But he has even said he prefers, like the way that first, the way he feels he can't drink, he can't smoke excessively though, because he'll just fall asleep.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so he's not, he's not like. He's not like me fall asleep, or I'm just like creating the craziest stories in my head.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but he he was. He kind of went through a similar thing. I don't want to like talk too much about his story but, um, he has alcoholism in the family. Um, his dad passed away and so he kind of like he was a straight straight edge for a little while, like high school, and then he started drinking when he got older.

Speaker 1:

But, um, and then when his, when his, he saw that all go down straight edge is another fucking like rabbit hole that we could go into, because we went in the 80s like the tough love parenting, send your kids to boot camp, shaming them, blah, blah, blah, um, and I feel like that was all the result of the like war on drugs and that kind of shit, because they were like terrified that their kids were gonna end up being hippies, hippie potheads, just like horrible, addicted to drugs. And then you like send your kids to these camps. And there was that show that I told you I watched, that you you need to watch. It was fucking ridiculous. Like I can't believe it. I mean, I can believe it, but like it's really fucked up and sad. I can't remember the name of it. Yeah, it's gonna, it's on netflix, um, but like they talk about all that stuff and then Straight Edge how that was a thing that kind of came out of that culture, yeah, and it's just like a wormhole in itself, bizarre.

Speaker 2:

It definitely is, but yeah, he doesn't really. He's not like a big drinker anymore and I definitely think that we've watched it.

Speaker 1:

We personally have seen Alcohol like destroy right lives and and I mean it it's and I've never seen marijuana destroy right I mean, you have those people like I used to date somebody that would smoke all the time and it irritated the fuck out of me because it's like why am I waiting for you to smoke to go into a restaurant, like it's a five minute drive? Yeah, it just it's. Why are we waiting on you? And he's like well, you, am I waiting for you to smoke to go into a restaurant, like it's a five minute drive? Yeah, it just it's. Why are we waiting on you? And he's like well, you smoke cigarettes. And I was like I throw my cigarettes before we go, like I'll smoke up to the door but I'll put it out Like you've never waited with me standing anywhere to smoke a cigarette. Yeah, and I'm like it's really annoying, like that kind that's not normal.

Speaker 2:

You know, if you have to smoke weed before you do anything, like that's a dependence yeah, or I would say it could be like a personality thing, like I feel like yeah, it could help you in social situations like I don't smoke every time I do things I'm, but I'm saying like there are people who just smoke all day, every day. It could be their anxiety, we could, I don't know if it's like, if they're using like self medicating it, self medicating themselves with it, um, but I also feel like there are people who just it depends on the person- it depends on the personality, like I definitely think they're bumps yeah. There are people who can't function without it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I know and I get that and that's fine, yeah, but it's just like there are certain things that are just really irritating.

Speaker 2:

I think, yeah, it depends on the person. I think, that it would irritate me if, like I, was dating someone who just couldn't even Like we couldn't do anything yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like I have to smoke. It's like it's a 30 second thing, like it's going to take you longer to roll a blunt and smoke. Why do we have to smoke the whole blunt? You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Like you smoked an hour ago, you're you know, it was just like literally all the time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, much like it was just so much. Um, but what? What's another thing that I was going to talk about? Oh, positives of smoking. First of all, we can use weed for a whole bunch of stuff, not even just to consume, but as far as making products and replacing them with hemp. It's so versatile, it can be used for so much. But the positives of using cannabis and this isn't just THC, this is CBD Cannabinoids in general are so versatile, versatile and they do so much. So we're talking lowering blood pressure, reducing inflammation, preventing relapse in other drugs and alcohol addiction, treating anxiety disorders, gastrointestinal issues and alcohol addiction. Treating anxiety disorders, gastrointestinal issues, preventing seizures. Remember when it was like 2012 and there was like that Oprah episode or something like that? There's a whole Netflix documentary on it too People having seizures and everyone was like weed is the only thing that helped, and everyone was like what Shrinking tumors?

Speaker 2:

Yep, that's another thing Preventing fighting cancer. Long-term use Relieving nausea. It helps. Helps with eating disorders, people with anorexia it's literally like the miracle thing.

Speaker 1:

That's why it's not legal federally. It it's. You know what? Yeah, yeah, because a lot of industries would would suffer. Goes back to pharmaceutical it does and it's really fucked. It's really fucked, but here we are, it is um. And then now we have like that fucking nixon war on drugs, everyone's in jail. That, um really should not be in jail.

Speaker 2:

I think we're progressing, though, and I think that the stigma will slowly stop existing, maybe not forever.

Speaker 1:

I mean not completely gone, but this is one of those things that you cannot look at the information we do have in the new studies coming out and all of the past narratives are wrong.

Speaker 2:

Not to make it go back to like boomers, but I feel like once they're gone there will be less stigma.

Speaker 1:

Um, that's terrible that is, I mean, but it's facts, it's facts. But that was also the generation, the tough love generation, that did the boot camps and like, yeah, threw out their gay kids because they were gay and you had to be.

Speaker 2:

They're also all racist, yes, and but see now, I don't think that'll be gone. I don't think like homophobia and racism will be gone with the boomers.

Speaker 1:

I definitely think that that's gotten passed down, so I don't know if weed will be gone completely there is. There is a type. There is a type that perpetuates that like, really like, held on to those like boomer parents, like the white middle class. I cannot.

Speaker 2:

I said I hate. I don't want to say I hate. I just feel like I know a lot of people my age who are more, have more conservative beliefs than I think they should have. Yeah, and I'm just like I was. With all the information we have today, you still have these beliefs.

Speaker 1:

We started watching. It's a series called them on um, I think it's on amazon, but there's not a whole bunch of things that I watch that I like it physically makes me ill to watch. But it's about like this family that moves from the deep south in the 1950s to california to compton and I like I know this stuff happened. But to watch these things and there's this one scene spoiler alert and also just like, if you have, it has to do with children Trigger yeah, it's just trigger warning, so skip past, maybe like the next minute if you don't want to hear it. Block my ears, do you want?

Speaker 2:

to hear it um block my ears this?

Speaker 1:

you do you want to hear it? This white lady and her like guys I don't know if they were her sons or whatever, yet this far into the series came to this woman and she was alone with her son in the house, came in, she hid the baby. There was no way she was gonna get out of this. I was like thinking I'm like how could this have gone differently? And it's like it's not. This fucking lady puts the baby in a bag while the mom is getting raped by her inbred whatever the fucks, and they're throwing the baby back and forth, yelling cat in a bag and then she puts the pillowcase down and there's blood and that's how the baby dies. And I'm'm thinking, where do you? I don't understand it so deeply because I can't imagine doing that to like an iguana or a lizard or something that I think is like you know, any living thing. I don't understand, no, how you get there like and the things that you hear, these racist people.

Speaker 2:

But wait, so it was. Was it a the family that moved from? Yeah, it was, that was their story.

Speaker 1:

They moved to the from the south to get away from that because the mom went into like a crazy depression.

Speaker 2:

Obviously because it's so that happened in the south or it happened in the south, but compton's not it's not looking much better, right. So it was a black family, yeah, and these white inbred people did this to her.

Speaker 1:

It was so me and Gio were just like sitting there. I can't watch it like that anymore, because but the thing is, I let myself get that uncomfortable. I forced myself to sit through it and analyze certain things because I have to unlearn so much racism that's embedded in me, because I'm white you know what I mean and I work really hard because I have brown children that experience racism yeah, um, and because I don't want this shit to happen. No, not at all. I don't want it to continue, and I have to acknowledge my part as a white person in it.

Speaker 2:

Definitely, um, but I was just like I wasn't saying I can't watch the racist stuff. I can't watch like anything with any violence anymore oh yeah, no, like violence in general or anything involving children and yeah, it was really, really hard.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I'm gonna throw up yeah, it was, and. But again, I forced myself to sit through it because you have to watch a documentary after that.

Speaker 2:

We're totally going off topic.

Speaker 1:

We are, but also not, because a lot of like it stems the the illegal illegality. What is the word that I'm looking for? I don't know the reason that comes from racism yeah, as do a lot of things in american culture. Yeah, um, and you can't talk about one without talking about the other, because they're so deeply interconnected.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and then like there's also, it doesn't matter the race of the, this definitely like it applies. Obviously there is racism still involved, but even if, like you see a white person smoking, you still think a negative stereotype like they're white trash or they're low income or they're.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I feel like they get a little bit more grace though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think they're less violence. I think people okay. Well, the stigma you could be like a hippie stoner, a lazy bum. What are all the? What are all?

Speaker 1:

the. What are all the stigmas?

Speaker 2:

hippies don't are lazy bum white trash, but if a black person's smoking, weed.

Speaker 1:

They're criminal. Yeah, it's criminal.

Speaker 2:

They're a drug dealer they're um lazy how could she be a?

Speaker 1:

good mom, yeah, that kind of stuff, but it's like lazy is across the board yeah, anything negative yeah, but I think if you see black people smoking or using cannabis, it comes up. They're more like aggressive feelings of not in me, but I'm saying generally that the consensus is like negative.

Speaker 1:

And again going back to all of these people, we're pardoning people left and right, releasing people from prisons, but then we have all these nonviolent weed offenses from prisons. But then we have all these non-violent weed offenses, offenses and what? Why are we sentencing people to over a hundred years life sentences for weed? Who are those people getting the sentences? They're black people. You cannot argue with those statistics. You can't look at it and say, oh, this is definitely way different than this white person. Yeah, that did the same thing. And they're getting off on parole for two years so no time served.

Speaker 2:

I have a story and this is I don't know if it's embarrassing or just an example of white privilege and weed. I got pulled over in new hampshire with weed in my car and it's not legal and weed it's not. It's not legal in new hampshire. It's not legal in weed it's not legal in new hampshire. I got pulled over, had weed in the. The car smelled like weed because there's weed in the car and I also had an unregistered vehicle and they totally should have towed me. But he was like I'll let you go because you're away from home. I was there shooting a wedding, yeah, and my whole family was back at the hotel and if I had gone, like if I had been a person of color, I probably would have gotten arrested. Yeah, 100% I am.

Speaker 1:

I got two very hefty fines. I am not blind to the privilege I have, yeah, and I will not say that I don't use it. I know I use it. I know when I can get away and I know, in a situation where I should talk, or if geo should talk, because who's going to get treated different and that is so fucked that I that it it's a thing, right, like it's fucked up that I I know when we're gonna, who's gonna benefit in the situation, yeah, and then you want to talk about people in this building slamming doors on geo because he's brown, when all of the 2020, like mass, you had to address the racism and it's just like it's so prevalent.

Speaker 1:

And being white and having brown children and being married to a brown man, it's like I'm still a part of the problem in some ways, like and it's I don't know what to do. I don't know what the fuck to do. But, like, again, I'm trying to unlearn as much as I can, and sometimes I'm still wrong and I'm sure I've probably said things during this podcast that were not the right thing, but it's, I'm still trying. Do your best. You know, yeah, we're all, yeah. Try and do your best. You know, yeah, we're all. Yeah, so I don't know, that was another off on a tangent thing, but race plays a big role into cannabis. So, yeah, you can't address one thing without the other, and it's just. You can't record the podcast and not talk about its entirety.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, where it comes from um, do you know any parents who have, I don't know, been treated differently or like any personal story, like I don't know if I know anybody who's ever gotten in trouble um, or treated differently because they're a parent who uses I can't think of, like any specific stories?

Speaker 1:

I I didn't grow up around people that smoked weed like um, and I wasn't like introduced to weed until I was older and that was already like the point that we were kind of already like past it. And currently I feel like now I know people that like didn't smoke or had negative thoughts about weed that do now smoke.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think that comes with like maturity, but I don't know that I don't have any like she's a piece of shit mom because she smokes weed. No, and I don't have that thought, but I know that it's a thing. Like I know people have thoughts about smoking weed and being a parent, thoughts about smoking weed and being a parent, and it's more like the fear to do it versus like just having a, just having a glass of wine, and it's like is there such thing as a one glass of wine? You know what I'm saying. Like if you're drinking wine, you're drinking that bottle of wine, which I mean, not me anymore.

Speaker 1:

I guess they're both self-medicating but, like One definitely has way more disadvantages than the other. Yeah, like, okay, so I'm, if I I've had edibles and like my children are definitely still awake and I just laugh, and Eli was like mommy, you so crazy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, mommy, you so crazy.

Speaker 1:

I'm more fun Like, sillier, Like that's the worst thing, that they're uncomfortable. If I get drunk in front of them, you know what I mean like, and it's because it does impair you like it changes your speech pattern, like you're off center on your shit, like I'm just the crazy fun mom when I'm stoned yeah, yeah, same um.

Speaker 1:

We have dance parties yeah, so and again, like you cannot do things when you are drunk and when you're high on weed, when you're stoned, I feel like I should say I don't know that terminology I feel like I can get twisted the word high yeah, when you're stoned, when you're using, when you're using cannabis because it's so many words, I want just one, because I feel like I use it without even having yeah micro dosing.

Speaker 1:

I used to take like little bites of like low dose gummies just to like, if I'm, like I already feel irritated and I just woke up, I'm gonna just like take a little nibble of this gummy and I, and I'm gonna be okay, you know my, uh, my max dosage with edibles used to be like five and like and like slowly.

Speaker 2:

When I first started taking gummies I could do like a five would be more than enough, but I don't process them very quickly like it takes like two hours bro, I used to eat like brownies and like they taste good.

Speaker 1:

So I'm like god damn, I'm gonna have another one. And then I would be like is this real?

Speaker 2:

I ate? I took five one time and it didn't like it didn't hit me. And I took another five and it hit me while I was shopping at the mall. It was. I was in the middle of shopping, I was in a dressing room and I stopped. I put all the stuff down, I got dressed I I went to Onan's Pretzels and I came back and went back into the dressing room and finished trying on my clothes while eating pretzels.

Speaker 1:

Dude, one time this is before kids, gio, we were trying to buy a mattress, like a fluff top for a mattress, what are those called? A pillow top, yeah, for the mattress. And so we were at Bed, bath, beyond, and I think this was when it was going out of business or something. So we, gio, is one of those people that, like, does the research knows which one finds it whatever? This motherfucker took like two gummies because they weren't going to do anything.

Speaker 1:

And we're standing there in the goddamn aisle and he's like what's the difference between this one? This one says da, da, da. And this one says what's the difference? What's the difference? And I'm like I don't think we're gonna buy this today, I think we're just gonna fucking head out all right, because you, you knew which one that we had to get before we got here and we've spent 35 minutes going back and forth and you bought a fourth option and now we're looking at seven options and it was. I was like, yeah, let's just go. And he does not usually get like that, so that's like the story, like we'll talk about remember that time and fucking bed, bath and beyond.

Speaker 2:

But see, that feels like you did the responsible thing and you left patrick and I the irresponsible thing. When we, when we drank margaritas one night, we went and bought a couch and it's so easy to do and it was the most uncomfortable couch we ever purchased. But when I was like this, is so comfy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when I drink, I shop irresponsibly yes I mean, as someone with adhd, I do that frequently. Anyway, add a little bit of alcohol.

Speaker 2:

Because there's no impulse control.

Speaker 1:

We're buying some things you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's bad. At least when you smoke weed you're like I'll do that tomorrow, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm too. I have to hit next four times. Nah, no, I should probably use cannabis more frequently to control that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I feel like I'm less impulsive. I'm just. I feel like I'm more in control. That's like the bad that's the only thing to really. It helps with my adhd symptoms, for sure yeah, so basically, um, we're we're going on.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's 40 minutes. Right now. I feel like this is a good place to wrap up. Yeah, because we went on a few tangents that were incredibly necessary. Um, they were, let us know do smoke weed? Do you feel bad about smoking weed? Do you use cannabis in?

Speaker 2:

any way. Do you feel stigmatized?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, have you been mom shamed for smoking. How did this not come up in the last episode? I think I did, did you Maybe?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, I don't remember I'm just like I did. I said smoking, like I said it all. I said it with a little twang because I don't know what the hell happened, but I feel like in that episode I was looking for a couple of things that I knew happened and then I literally created merch. That by the time this comes out, hopefully I've already released um and I'm looking for a specific thing and I cannot find it, and I don't know if it's just because I've looked at it for so long or if it's because it's just missing from that conversation. It it's like the Mandela effect in our podcast.

Speaker 2:

Like I know, this happened.

Speaker 1:

Where is it? And yeah, I just went off on that. So, yeah, let us know, we'll probably do something in our stories talking about it when this episode releases, yeah, and just have conversations about it.

Speaker 2:

We should have taken a poll beforehand to see how many of our mom friends smoke weed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we didn't plan super well, but a poll beforehand to see how many of our mom friends smoke weed. Yeah, we didn't plan super well, um, but anyway. So, um, we're currently wearing new merch. If you haven't checked it out on the shop, go go check it out. And that design is not even the video. That design is not even available anymore. So that's og merch, um. Go check us out again. More things coming out um soon. Leave us a review, because it really helps your girls out and buy and buy some new hats.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love the hats the hats are so cute okay.

Parenting and Smoking Weed Discussion
History and Impact of Cannabis Use
The Impact of Cannabis and Stigma
Navigating Privilege and Cannabis Use
Marijuana and Impulse Shopping Stories
Merchandise Launch and Mom Poll